Terry is joined by Devin Burghart of Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights to discuss countering the right wing populist movement that has coalesced in the last 10 years. Terry and Devin discuss this movement, how it has changed, and what role each of us can play to counter it.

Devin Burghart is president of Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights and coordinates the Seattle office. He has researched, written, and organized on virtually all facets of contemporary white nationalism since 1992, and is internationally recognized for this effort.  Devin is frequently quoted as an expert by the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Chicago Tribune, Los Angeles Times, Philadelphia Enquirer, Arizona Republic, Seattle Post-Intelligencer, The Nation, and Rolling Stone. He has appeared on CNN, MSNBC, the CBS News and National Public Radio, and other broadcast media outlets. 

Learn more about Devin's work at: https://www.irehr.org/

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